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Wait, where did the title drop go?
Also was anybody else bothered by Deadites being active during daylight in the prologue scene?
Evil Dead Rise
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Also was anybody else bothered by Deadites being active during daylight in the prologue scene?
Muzzlehatch
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I have mixed feelings about it. I saw the opening gag coming from miles. I thought the demonic POV-shot would turn out as an insect before being casually smashed by the folks at the lake. The reveal showed something else. Maybe I got old but most the times I dislike modern day technology in a horror story.
The acting, sound and cinematography were good for me, especially the visual style. But like some of you already mentioned I love Evil Dead not because of the violence. In fact it is the least aspect of the movies I am interested in. Maybe ED was shocking in 1980. But you can not say that about about ED2 or AoD. The violence in this intro is not too hard either. It is not torture porn. But it has something cynical about it (like many other modern horror movies) that puts me off.
I have not seen the rest of the movie. How does it compare to the rest of the movie? I watched some shorter scene clips and I liked those much better.
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That was my question, and yeah, that's a tidge annoying. It doesn't factor into the rest of the film and it could, too.
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It's more brutal emotionally and a more brutal bloodwise, most of which has already leaked out as previews. I'm still amazed people said this was the most jaw-droppingly gory Evil Dead movie and it's just...not. But I still liked it for other reasons!
Also, looks like the DVD/Blu pack will get a commentary track.
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So, I finally watched it and... Yeah, that's gonna be a negative from me. I honestly thought it was just as bad as the remake (and like @Sutter Cane mentioned in his review, despite the ultimately rather inconsequential change in setting and character archetypes, it's still mostly a beat by beat remake of the original The Evil Dead).
By the way, I also watched the remake's extended cut for the first time, and neither the distance from release or the alternate cut did much to make my opinion of it any more positive.
Yeah, I don't know what those people are going on about. The fascination with the fuckin' cheese grater is particularly puzzling to me. Sure, there's a lot of blood in the film (as expected), but it's fairly tame in general. Also, most of the more violent/gory bits in it are heavily digitally enhanced and surprisingly very poorly staged. It all looked so obscured and phony that it barely made an impression.
By the way, I also watched the remake's extended cut for the first time, and neither the distance from release or the alternate cut did much to make my opinion of it any more positive.
Yeah, I don't know what those people are going on about. The fascination with the fuckin' cheese grater is particularly puzzling to me. Sure, there's a lot of blood in the film (as expected), but it's fairly tame in general. Also, most of the more violent/gory bits in it are heavily digitally enhanced and surprisingly very poorly staged. It all looked so obscured and phony that it barely made an impression.
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Finally watched Evil Dead Rise.
i thought It was pretty good! Though i have some issues with it, i think it's a pretty good entry in the franchise! Get's a good recommendation from me.
I'll do a quick short and sweet pro's, mixed and cons section
SPOILERS BELOW
Overall Thoughts
I thought this was a pretty good entry despite the mis-steps it took in some areas and maybe it could've been a bit more original/creative in other areas i still had a very good time with it and i'm very much looking forward to seeing what's going to happen next for the franchise!
Here's my own personal franchise ranking based on enjoyment/re-watchability scale :
Movies
1. ED2
2. ED1
3. Rise
4. AoD
5. 2013 (Reason for being last : The over the top brutal/harsh tone while intentional i just didn't vibe with nor did it feel like a balanced evil dead experience and was leaning too far into that mind numbing/bleak genre of horror i dislike, it's very rare i ever go back to this film. Only saving graces this film had was Mia's story, Jane Levy's performance and the practical effects.)
TV Show (this one is gonna be a very obvious ranking) :
1. S3
2. S1
3. S2 (Reason for being last : Terrible writing that ruined this whole season with a lot of missed opportunities.)
i thought It was pretty good! Though i have some issues with it, i think it's a pretty good entry in the franchise! Get's a good recommendation from me.
I'll do a quick short and sweet pro's, mixed and cons section
SPOILERS BELOW
Pro's
-The main storyline that played out with the family and the neighbor side characters on their floor was all very good stuff! i didn't have any problems with those group of characters they were all pretty relatable to root for and made me pretty depressed to see how it all played out. If anything, this films main story is probably it's main driving strength despite some glaring issues i have with other elements outside of it.
-The cinematography and overall style of the film was great, they did their own thing but still kept alive the creative and chaotic feel of how the camera's placed and shot. Though i think probably the best shot of the film is the final shot lee did with the car keys, it was a great way to end that part of the story on and you are hit with a certain reflection of all that just took place now that the brakes are being applied and the storm is passing on, it's a really good emotional gut punch to get a look back on simpler times for this family after what just took place. Really tragic stuff.
-The practical effects were great, but i could tell the team working on this film were working on a tight budget in some sequences (Mainly in the final act with how they were shooting the marauder), but despite that handicap i thought the crew did a great job working around/being creative with the budget they were working with and for the most part the execution was great, i did get a little squeamish/grossed out at certain parts of the film so they did their job well on that front!
-Very much enjoyed the implications with the lore they've established in this film with the books and i'm quite curious to see where it's gonna head next as introducing the book volume idea makes way for even more volumes to appear and it might not just be 3 books we could be dealing with in the future.
-Really loved the attention to detail on the establish something/pay it off aspect of the film. Lee did a great job establishing stuff that would come back later on in the film and paying it off very well, there's a ton of examples i could give but the main one i loved was Ellie's keys keeping the elevator doors open and how that was paid off.
Mixed
-The pacing of the action sequences were very off balance. While i did enjoy the suspense/horrific action in this film. It felt like Lee was constantly putting the brakes on at points when he shouldn't have been doing it, if that makes sense? When i think of evil dead's action sequences, i think of very intense and no room to breath confrontations that have you on the edge of your seat, but here in Rise there was too much stopping and going in the action. There was some sequences that had that feel where Lee finally stepped off the brakes and just let the scenes breath/be very chaotic and suspenseful.
-Some of the blunt callbacks to previous entries was a bit tiresome, i very much enjoyed the subtle ones that were placed around on the sets and some of the props plus the characters names being a shout out to previous actors but the blunt ones should've been taken out or not used to make way for more original stuff for the franchise. The main one i had a big problem with was the use of the "Come get some!" line.
It wasn't really the line itself, but how it was executed.
In the scene where it's said, Beth just says it out of no where, the actress delivered the line well with a snappy punch too it but it felt like Beth was responding to something the demon said and it was cut out. There really should've been something said by "The Marauder" that cued into that line to give it that extra punch it needed to land.
-I feel like the apartment setting really didn't get used too it's fullest potential and it seemed like Lee was wanting to use all the floors of the building from a recent interview he did but it seems like he got scared off by the idea in fear of making it too much like a zombie film which i can understand cause the personal/cut throat vibe of a small number of demons makes it more intense then a large army of them so i'm happy he decided to go more towards blocking off that floor and it just being that whole block of residence instead of the whole building. Plus i imagine the tight budget had a factor in that decision as well for obvious reasons.
Con's
- Here's the big and only major con i had with the movie. I didn't really much care for the opening and final stinger of the film. Felt like a odd side story that could've been cut entirely from the film to make way for more interactions/time with the main family of the film before everything went down. Both parts really added nothing much too the overall film beyond the opening giving us a taste of what's to come which in all honesty, Fede did a way better job at establishing what you were getting into with that cold open for ED'13.
But if i had to do a quick shot in the dark edit to make it work better pacing wise, i think they should've started the film off with the lady leaving her apartment and finding the aftermath of what happened in the garage, it would've made the audience get very confused and flabbergasted at what took place in that garage leaving us with that imagery in our head for the first act wondering how it's all gonna lead to there.
Then i would've had a more quickly paced and violent possession of that character before cutting to black, then we cut to the trick drone shots in the woods and play out the whole sequence like it normally would then cut to the "one day earlier".
Then for the ending, i would've just ended it on the keyring as that shot is just a great and powerful image to end on and you cut to credits to make the audience reflect on what happened to that family and how all of that could've been avoided very easily.
-The main storyline that played out with the family and the neighbor side characters on their floor was all very good stuff! i didn't have any problems with those group of characters they were all pretty relatable to root for and made me pretty depressed to see how it all played out. If anything, this films main story is probably it's main driving strength despite some glaring issues i have with other elements outside of it.
-The cinematography and overall style of the film was great, they did their own thing but still kept alive the creative and chaotic feel of how the camera's placed and shot. Though i think probably the best shot of the film is the final shot lee did with the car keys, it was a great way to end that part of the story on and you are hit with a certain reflection of all that just took place now that the brakes are being applied and the storm is passing on, it's a really good emotional gut punch to get a look back on simpler times for this family after what just took place. Really tragic stuff.
-The practical effects were great, but i could tell the team working on this film were working on a tight budget in some sequences (Mainly in the final act with how they were shooting the marauder), but despite that handicap i thought the crew did a great job working around/being creative with the budget they were working with and for the most part the execution was great, i did get a little squeamish/grossed out at certain parts of the film so they did their job well on that front!
-Very much enjoyed the implications with the lore they've established in this film with the books and i'm quite curious to see where it's gonna head next as introducing the book volume idea makes way for even more volumes to appear and it might not just be 3 books we could be dealing with in the future.
-Really loved the attention to detail on the establish something/pay it off aspect of the film. Lee did a great job establishing stuff that would come back later on in the film and paying it off very well, there's a ton of examples i could give but the main one i loved was Ellie's keys keeping the elevator doors open and how that was paid off.
Mixed
-The pacing of the action sequences were very off balance. While i did enjoy the suspense/horrific action in this film. It felt like Lee was constantly putting the brakes on at points when he shouldn't have been doing it, if that makes sense? When i think of evil dead's action sequences, i think of very intense and no room to breath confrontations that have you on the edge of your seat, but here in Rise there was too much stopping and going in the action. There was some sequences that had that feel where Lee finally stepped off the brakes and just let the scenes breath/be very chaotic and suspenseful.
-Some of the blunt callbacks to previous entries was a bit tiresome, i very much enjoyed the subtle ones that were placed around on the sets and some of the props plus the characters names being a shout out to previous actors but the blunt ones should've been taken out or not used to make way for more original stuff for the franchise. The main one i had a big problem with was the use of the "Come get some!" line.
It wasn't really the line itself, but how it was executed.
In the scene where it's said, Beth just says it out of no where, the actress delivered the line well with a snappy punch too it but it felt like Beth was responding to something the demon said and it was cut out. There really should've been something said by "The Marauder" that cued into that line to give it that extra punch it needed to land.
-I feel like the apartment setting really didn't get used too it's fullest potential and it seemed like Lee was wanting to use all the floors of the building from a recent interview he did but it seems like he got scared off by the idea in fear of making it too much like a zombie film which i can understand cause the personal/cut throat vibe of a small number of demons makes it more intense then a large army of them so i'm happy he decided to go more towards blocking off that floor and it just being that whole block of residence instead of the whole building. Plus i imagine the tight budget had a factor in that decision as well for obvious reasons.
Con's
- Here's the big and only major con i had with the movie. I didn't really much care for the opening and final stinger of the film. Felt like a odd side story that could've been cut entirely from the film to make way for more interactions/time with the main family of the film before everything went down. Both parts really added nothing much too the overall film beyond the opening giving us a taste of what's to come which in all honesty, Fede did a way better job at establishing what you were getting into with that cold open for ED'13.
But if i had to do a quick shot in the dark edit to make it work better pacing wise, i think they should've started the film off with the lady leaving her apartment and finding the aftermath of what happened in the garage, it would've made the audience get very confused and flabbergasted at what took place in that garage leaving us with that imagery in our head for the first act wondering how it's all gonna lead to there.
Then i would've had a more quickly paced and violent possession of that character before cutting to black, then we cut to the trick drone shots in the woods and play out the whole sequence like it normally would then cut to the "one day earlier".
Then for the ending, i would've just ended it on the keyring as that shot is just a great and powerful image to end on and you cut to credits to make the audience reflect on what happened to that family and how all of that could've been avoided very easily.
Overall Thoughts
I thought this was a pretty good entry despite the mis-steps it took in some areas and maybe it could've been a bit more original/creative in other areas i still had a very good time with it and i'm very much looking forward to seeing what's going to happen next for the franchise!
Here's my own personal franchise ranking based on enjoyment/re-watchability scale :
Movies
1. ED2
2. ED1
3. Rise
4. AoD
5. 2013 (Reason for being last : The over the top brutal/harsh tone while intentional i just didn't vibe with nor did it feel like a balanced evil dead experience and was leaning too far into that mind numbing/bleak genre of horror i dislike, it's very rare i ever go back to this film. Only saving graces this film had was Mia's story, Jane Levy's performance and the practical effects.)
TV Show (this one is gonna be a very obvious ranking) :
1. S3
2. S1
3. S2 (Reason for being last : Terrible writing that ruined this whole season with a lot of missed opportunities.)
DyD
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Yes! I know exactly what you mean and I'm so glad someone with a more positive overall view of the film brought this up before me, so I don't come off sounding like a lunatic. The editing is filled with these oddly placed pauses in action and weird cross-cutting/transitions between scenes. The timing of the cutting is also strangely off in a lot of moments. It really hurt the pacing of the film and kinda deflated the tension in a few key scenes for me.
I'm also in agreement with pretty much all of your other mixed and cons there, even if that stuff bothered me a lot more than it seems to have bothered you.
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Here's another BTS video from lee. Spoiler tagging this one, but it's pretty hilarious
Just watching most of these bts videos, you can really tell the whole cast and crew had a blast making it.
Edit :
Just realized something massive that completely flew over my head on my first watch.
SPOILERS
This had to be a very big/intentional crossover moment with the previous demons from the raimi trilogy and fede's film that completely went over my head.
Danny has the White Eyes (Raimi)
Bridget has the Yellow Eyes (Fede)
And Ellie has the Silver Eyes (Lee)
How the hell did i miss this?!
Either way, this is a great shot and one big literal coming together moment for the demons of the franchise!
You know what! Now thinking about it, Danny was acting like a total Raimi deadite while Bridget was acting like a brutal/super aggressive demon from Fede's film.
How did this go under my nose, this is insane!!
Just watching most of these bts videos, you can really tell the whole cast and crew had a blast making it.
Edit :
Just realized something massive that completely flew over my head on my first watch.
SPOILERS
This had to be a very big/intentional crossover moment with the previous demons from the raimi trilogy and fede's film that completely went over my head.
Danny has the White Eyes (Raimi)
Bridget has the Yellow Eyes (Fede)
And Ellie has the Silver Eyes (Lee)
How the hell did i miss this?!
Either way, this is a great shot and one big literal coming together moment for the demons of the franchise!
You know what! Now thinking about it, Danny was acting like a total Raimi deadite while Bridget was acting like a brutal/super aggressive demon from Fede's film.
How did this go under my nose, this is insane!!
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Nick el Ass
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Fantastic. I will take a commentary track on a Blu-Ray/DVD over videos showing how every little thing is done in a movie which is like a magician giving away all their secrets.
Now that is something that didn't register in my brain while sitting in the theater.
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We're pretty aligned on this one Joe: replies under here:
The main one i had a big problem with was the use of the "Come get some!" line.
It's even worse than that, the callback is foreshadowed by being on the pizza box. So it's taking this badass line and turning it into something Beth blurts out after she sees it on a pizza box!
Also the bit about the eyes is super interesting.
It's even worse than that, the callback is foreshadowed by being on the pizza box. So it's taking this badass line and turning it into something Beth blurts out after she sees it on a pizza box!
Also the bit about the eyes is super interesting.
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Honestly with that in mind, i actually like that idea that beth while in a frantic state, saw a quick glimpse of the pizza box's tagline and was like "That actually sounds pretty dope!" and awkwardly said it to the demon. It's pretty hilarious when you put it in that light.
DyD
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I actually like that better than
having her pull the line out of thin air just to reference the old movies, cause then the line at least comes from some place within the film's world and she has a reason to say it beyond just winking at the audience... But I'd still prefer it if she never said any of Ash's one liners at all, in any way.
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Pizza Poppa remains one of the best late-stage Raimi creations, I will die believing that.
Y'know that's a pretty fair assessment (and it is unintentionally funny)
Lee's explained something interesting about:
...Mr. Fonda's cat - they'd planned to make it a Deadite cat and budget prevented them from going there. Audience response caused him to pick the shot that shows the cat escaping Ellie.
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Here's a bts photo showing Bruce working on the sound design/effects
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Here's more BTS stuff on the film with Lee getting doused with a bucket of fake blood.
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Thank you! .. for me, it felt like they made this film but it was 'too many cooks spoil the broth' o'clock in the editing process. I would have LOVED it to instead end with the little girl (who, let's be honest, was basically the Newt character out of ALIENS) to have been the only survivor left .. just as Ash was in the original .. then we hear the BWOAMMM sound as the spirit rips through the building, down the elevator shaft, roars up to her face as she's standing outside the front door. She screams. The end. The credits roll.
Leatherface
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Where is Delta in the film? 
Why don't the Deadites take on their human form like in the other movies? The scene of the little girl who opens the door to her mother, and the mother who doesn't' returned to human form to convince her daughter makes the scene ridiculous and not believable.
Why don't the Deadites take on their human form like in the other movies? The scene of the little girl who opens the door to her mother, and the mother who doesn't' returned to human form to convince her daughter makes the scene ridiculous and not believable.