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Hurley said:
And watching the scene through that lens, it feels almost like a Scooby-Doo routine? Where you have just a handful of characters entering and exiting the shot like the Scooby Doo gang running away from a monster, entering and exiting the same number of doors in a hallway. And if this was intentional, if Scooby Doo had similar influence on Sébastien Vaniček as The Three Stooges had on Sam Raimi and Scott Spiegel… then that would feel EXTREMPLY on brand for Evil Dead to me.
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Yes, that would be fun and very much on brand, but given the "my movie is very dark and violent and brutal and serious and french" attitude from Vaniček up until now, I have my doubts it's intentional.

Hurley said:
They still have time to crank up the colors, but I'm afraid they won't because that's how movies look like now for some reason. When they do it for the big superhero blockbusters, it's mainly because you can hide bad CGI better if the image has low contrast and low saturation, but I just don't understand why they do this with low to mid budget horror movies with very limited use of digital effects. Like last year's Weapons was great, but during the night scenes in that movie, I really didn't know what the fuck was going on.
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Yes, but there's still a lot of CGI in that scene. It's all digitally stitched together and I think they keep replacing the actors with digital doubles. Like I said about the leaked footage, I actually wish it was done more old school and practical. Based on that scene, I really wouldn't call the use of digital effects in this movie "limited". About the garbage look, it isn't just the flat lighting and the dark color grading that aggravates me, but also the production design. There's nothing to separate one character from another or the characters from the background. Everyone's wearing similar bland clothes with neutral colors and after processing, it all ends up pretty much the same color as the background. There's literally no contrast whatsoever on the image as a whole. It's all just grey sludge. Looks terrible and it also makes the action difficult to follow.

Swofty said:
I've watched the trailer a few times. I could be wrong but haven't been able to see a floating Deadite.
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Oh, he's floating alright, but I really question the decision to obscure it like they did and end the scene with him just walking after them like a regular dude. Why wouldn't they end the scene with him floating after the victims and show it clearly? Like, build up to the money shot, y'know? It's just one baffling filmmaking decision after another in that teaser.
 
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First Evil Dead Burn fan poster using the official logo by Readful Things:

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DyD said:
Yes, but there's still a lot of CGI in that scene. It's all digitally stitched together and I think they keep replacing the actors with digital doubles. Like I said about the leaked footage, I actually wish it was done more old school and practical. Based on that scene, I really wouldn't call the use of digital effects in this movie "limited". About the garbage look, it isn't just the flat lighting and the dark color grading that aggravates me, but also the production design. There's nothing to separate one character from another or the characters from the background. Everyone's wearing similar bland clothes with neutral colors and after processing, it all ends up pretty much the same color as the background. There's literally no contrast whatsoever on the image as a whole. It's all just grey sludge. Looks terrible and it also makes the action difficult to follow.
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I'm sure there are bunch of digital effects in that shot alone, but by "limited" I ment that it's a scene shot in a real set with real actors (disagree about the digital doubles, but who knows) and not in a green cupboard with some tennis balls like for an Avengers movie. Meaning that I don't think that hiding CGI is the reason why the scene is so mirky, but who knows.

Anyway, I think I've squeezed as much from that teaser as I can, so I'll hold further judgement until we see something new.
 
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The official Evil Dead Burn banner and logo (from the official Evil Dead Twitter account). They're not perfect (banner has some serious JPG crust), but it's the best we have so far.
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Kain said:
It's crazy they're not even bothering to have an official site up.
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Did Rise have one? I remember they had that page where you could turn yourself into a Deadite, but that wasn't part of like a dedicated Evil Dead Rise website, right?
 
Kain said:
It's crazy they're not even bothering to have an official site up.
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The prepress for Burn has been incredibly underbaked, which makes me wonder about how WB feels about the final product.
 
So I watched Infested (Vermines), the 2023 French horror movie co-written and directed by Sébastien Vaniček, to see what to expect from him with his Evil Dead Burn. And I'd say that it was… pretty alright. Not great, not terrible, but pretty alright.

The premise is basically that a guy living in a poor and crumbling apartment building buys a pet spider that, unbeknownst to him, is some sort of a very exotic breed that then escapes and starts multiplying and growing very rapidly. So right off the bat you've got some similarities with Evil Dead Rise, where you have a bunch of characters in an old apartment building facing against some horrifying force. In that way it is also very similar to the Australian movie Sting from 2024, though I think that Infested is way better.

The movie isn't funny per se (which I think is a good choice since the premise is inherently silly, so it's more interesting if you play it straight), but I'd say that it's fun, in the sense that there are some creative visuals and the overall style is pretty fresh and solid for a first time director, which I think is what you'd want from an Evil Dead movie. But the most important thing to me was that the movie isn't really nasty or mean spirited. You wouldn't say that it's "the most disturbing movie you've ever seen", which is how producers love to sell the Evil Dead franchise nowadays, and I really hope that Burn won't be that, either. And if they really are using floating Deadites with white eyes, then one would hope that they'll go a bit more fun and loose with it than Rise or the remake did.

It's also clearly a very personal movie with some interesting character work and some underlying themes. Like I don't know anything about the socio-political issues in France, but the movie seems to be criticizing how the poor communities in France were left alone to die by the system during Covid, where the spiders here are a pretty clear metaphor for the pandemic.

Over all a solid movie for a first time director which made me even more excited for Burn. I really just hope they would give up with promoting the series as the most horrifying stuff you've ever seen. It kinda worked for the remake, because it was a callback to how the first movie was perceived in the 80s, but it was already pretty tired in Rise, where they basically just took the 10 second segment with the cheese grater and built a whole promotional campaign around it. I think that what makes Evil Dead as a franchise interesting is how flexible, inovative, and creative it can be, and I definitely think that Vaniček could make a solid entry in that regard. I just hope they let him.
 
Hurley said:
So I watched Infested (Vermines), the 2023 French horror movie co-written and directed by Sébastien Vaniček, to see what to expect from him with his Evil Dead Burn. And I'd say that it was… pretty alright. Not great, not terrible, but pretty alright.

The premise is basically that a guy living in a poor and crumbling apartment building buys a pet spider that, unbeknownst to him, is some sort of a very exotic breed that then escapes and starts multiplying and growing very rapidly. So right off the bat you've got some similarities with Evil Dead Rise, where you have a bunch of characters in an old apartment building facing against some horrifying force. In that way it is also very similar to the Australian movie Sting from 2024, though I think that Infested is way better.

The movie isn't funny per se (which I think is a good choice since the premise is inherently silly, so it's more interesting if you play it straight), but I'd say that it's fun, in the sense that there are some creative visuals and the overall style is pretty fresh and solid for a first time director, which I think is what you'd want from an Evil Dead movie. But the most important thing to me was that the movie isn't really nasty or mean spirited. You wouldn't say that it's "the most disturbing movie you've ever seen", which is how producers love to sell the Evil Dead franchise nowadays, and I really hope that Burn won't be that, either. And if they really are using floating Deadites with white eyes, then one would hope that they'll go a bit more fun and loose with it than Rise or the remake did.

It's also clearly a very personal movie with some interesting character work and some underlying themes. Like I don't know anything about the socio-political issues in France, but the movie seems to be criticizing how the poor communities in France were left alone to die by the system during Covid, where the spiders here are a pretty clear metaphor for the pandemic.

Over all a solid movie for a first time director which made me even more excited for Burn. I really just hope they would give up with promoting the series as the most horrifying stuff you've ever seen. It kinda worked for the remake, because it was a callback to how the first movie was perceived in the 80s, but it was already pretty tired in Rise, where they basically just took the 10 second segment with the cheese grater and built a whole promotional campaign around it. I think that what makes Evil Dead as a franchise interesting is how flexible, inovative, and creative it can be, and I definitely think that Vaniček could make a solid entry in that regard. I just hope they let him.
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I definitely enjoyed it when I tried it - I can always immediately figure out why Sam's picked someone to usher the series into a new phase and you could pretty much instantly figure out the hows and whys of his selection.

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Calling it now, we're getting a flying Deadite granny.
 
Hurley said:
New promotional still introducing the main characters.

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It boggles my mind that multiple people involved with the film looked at that, said "yeah, looks good" and actually went with it as a promotional image for the film.

Seriously, what the hell is happening with industry standard lighting and color grading in movies nowadays? It's been an issue for years now, specially in horror films, but this movie is looking like a particularly egregious example of it.
 
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