[Official Thread] Evil Dead Rise

Nick el Ass

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That's always my remark when these things happen; it's not a full reunion of even the Deaditeified main ladies without Embeth and Ellen!

Indeed it would be a blast if they did a panel featuring all the ladies together, and I don't know why this has become a thing... but in the words of Billy Mays wait there is more of this group of pics. They gave a few to different people on social media to put out at different times.

 

Joem1k

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Boy this was a brutal shoot for this film, Lilly posted up some BTS stuff that showcased how rough it gets when filming stuff for evil dead. It's no wonder Bruce retired from the live action side of evil dead and is sticking to VA Ash and Jane Levy hasn't returned to play Mia again! Also actually seeing that fake blood sticking to stuff and trying to get it to come apart looks painful as well.

 

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I'm digging the very classic sound of those horns and strings, particularly on the first couple of tracks there, but I gotta agree that as far as actual composition goes, there's not much to hold on to. I'm happy that it sounds like a real orchestra and it's not just the usual digital droning horror movies get for a score nowadays, but it is still a bit too shapeless for my taste. It's certainly trying to sound like the scores to the Raimi trilogy, but I'm missing actual themes and memorable cues. This is a purely functional score. It's not *bad*, but it's kinda boring.
I haven't seen this film yet but perhaps you're right and a bit of 'fun' instead music could have been tossed into this new soundtrack? .. maybe 'Back in Black' by AC/DC or something similar to juxtapose the horror in the same way Return of the Living Dead used The Cramps 'The Surfing Dead' amidst the gore and horror .. I'll wait and see. A bit of rock 'n roll music unexpectedly 'tossed' into 80's horror films at the time was good fun and gave us all a chance to breathe back out in the cinemas.
 

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I haven't seen this film yet but perhaps you're right and a bit of 'fun' instead music could have been tossed into this new soundtrack? .. maybe 'Back in Black' by AC/DC or something similar to juxtapose the horror in the same way Return of the Living Dead used The Cramps 'The Surfing Dead' amidst the gore and horror .. I'll wait and see. A bit of rock 'n roll music unexpectedly 'tossed' into 80's horror films at the time was good fun and gave us all a chance to breathe back out in the cinemas.

Although there was none of that in the Evil Dead movies that actually came out in that decade, I think some '80s hair metal in the vein of Dokken's "Dream Warriors" from A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 could possibly be fun for this movie, even if just as an end credits song... But like you suggested, we don't know the exact tone they're going for here, so there's a chance it wouldn't really fit.
 
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MaidOfKandar

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Phew, if you want to avoid being spoiled for Thursday DO NOT watch the last clip Bloody Disgusting released,
it basically gives away what happens right before the final battle starts.

I'll post it here, but under spoiler tags, along with the two latest clips that've come out.



Also
 
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Joem1k

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Some very interesting news for future installments!
AVC: It’s great that we’re out of the cabin and into a creepy high-rise. For you, where does the franchise need to go next to continue to grow? Would you like to see a larger scale Evil Dead movie with more widespread chaos, like we saw during the finale of Ash Vs. Evil Dead?

BC:
The only problem with that is that it can get out of hand and if we jump into that world too quickly, it’s hard to get it back. I think the stories will progress a little more now. We’re going to try and do them more like every two or three years rather than every 10 years. It’s also the first time Sam is working with his brother Ivan to create an overall Bible that will give future writers and directors an idea of where this thing should go next to potentially tie in some of these stories. So I think it’s going to get a little more tied in as the years go by. But because it’s all about the books. It could be a book in the past, a book in the future. It’s yet to be determined.

Source : https://www.avclub.com/bruce-campbell-interview-evil-dead-rise-1850346176
 

MaidOfKandar

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Thought 1: I knew the three book thing was BS for this reason alone and they should not have let Lee repeat that multiple times on the press junket if they knew that was true.
Thought 2: They are tempting the law of averages. AvED already got mixed reviews, the remake has its detractors (*waves hand*), if they make them more frequently we're going to get into Conjuring-verse overproduction.

At this point they're going to have to indulge in "reverse vampires" stuff to make all three distinct realities make sense. Ash's general home continuity makes no sense!

ETA: Box office estimates are in; EDR is predicted to hit second place, underperform the remake, and is not likely to beat SMB, but may pay off its budget and/or marketing cost (??). This is not a big shock to me, I'm the only person going to my 9:45 PM showing tomorrow.

 
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MaidOfKandar

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If EDR is a good movie my dream scenario for a sequel would be: Bruce coming back as Ash but as a different, alternate version of Ash more serious and mature in tone, meaning more in line with ED2 than with AoD and AvED.

That's a creative way to get around things!
 

Nick el Ass

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ETA: Box office estimates are in; EDR is predicted to hit second place, underperform the remake, and is not likely to beat SMB, but may pay off its budget and/or marketing cost (??). This is not a big shock to me, I'm the only person going to my 9:45 PM showing tomorrow.

Super Mario Bros is going to be hard to top for any movies coming out this weekend, and my local theater only had showings for 2 (listed at 30% off mostly due the theater struggling)-4-6 pm until recently when they added 8-9-10 since they were filling up with advanced ticket buyers... but I think they will take second place considering Evil Dead Rise was only supposed to be available via a streaming service.
 

MaidOfKandar

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Super Mario Bros is going to be hard to top for any movies coming out this weekend, and my local theater only had showings for 2 (listed at 30% off mostly due the theater struggling)-4-6 pm until recently when they added 8-9-10 since they were filling up with advanced ticket buyers... but I think they will take second place considering Evil Dead Rise was only supposed to be available via a streaming service.

My local theatre's doing 5 shows a day starting Friday and it's interesting to me what's filling up and what's not (IE no one coming to my 9:30 show). My friend's showing is almost sold out, another friend is going to be with a group of five friends and only two other people bought seats to theirs.
 

Nick el Ass

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My local theatre's doing 5 shows a day starting Friday and it's interesting to me what's filling up and what's not (IE no one coming to my 9:30 show). My friend's showing is almost sold out, another friend is going to be with a group of five friends and only two other people bought seats to theirs.

Plan is to go to the 4 o'clock showing tomorrow which has a decent amount of people, but the later showings when looking at the seating options since they let you pick where you want to sit... and lets just say they have a smaller number of advanced tickets sold so far. I'm sure more people will walk in like me without buying tickets in advance though since it is going to be a cold and rainy day.
 
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MaidOfKandar

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Looks like I'm going first?

Overall spoiler-free thoughts: pretty good! It's not going to replace Evil Dead 2 or AOD or TED as my favorite Evil Dead film, but it's miles better than the remake or AvED. Just a plain good horror experience, but not my favorite horror experience of the year (Believe it or not, that honor belongs to M3GAN, which was just more fun) or even the bloodiest film I've seen so far (Terrifier 2 takes that honor). It's not flawless, but at bare minimum it had non-annoying characters I cared about and wanted to see survive. A lot of the set pieces were good, the performances were nice too, the callbacks were only occasionally obnoxious, the gore was decent, but most of the kills were mediocre. A thumb up, but not an uber-enthusiastic one.

Spoilers under here:

* Excellent acting across the board. Nelle Fisher in particular has a future ahead of her that's bright, and Alyssa Sutherland is the most memorable deadite arguably since Mia, even more arguably since Bruce was Evil Ash back in AOD.

* Sympathetic characters doing things that (mostly) make sense? In my Evil Dead film?! Will wonders cease!? I felt pity for Danny for doing what he did; he's just a teenager, he didn't have GIANT ENGLISH WARNINGS WRITTEN ON EVERYTHING, and he actually cares enough to take out Bridget and stop what he started, even if he bled to death while doing it. Bridget and Kassie are just kids and Beth is trying her best just to keep Kassie alive.

* I liked the small detail of Ellie being aware of their own possession still.

* The vine scene being rewritten to take the rape out but keep it scary. See! It can be done, Fede!

* Kassie might be my new fave Evil Dead character.

* Staffanie!

* The phone bit was fun.

* Kassie and Beth are the best buddy/relative team in an Evil Dead franchise installment in decades. Their Newt and Ripley vibes did indeed pay off.

* Kassie and Beth living!

* Kassie actually being useful in the final battle instead of being a plot football!

* Beth not miscarrying and/or being strangled to death by her Deadite baby or something!

* Deadites that generally feel like Deadites! They delight in malice and are hungry for murder! The foul language here at least made sense and made them sound like Deadites, not vaguely horny Reagan clones.

* Peephole scene was good!

* Fairly decent if unmemorable kills, with the Maurauder-into-stump grinder being the most memorable (possibly the only one that anyone will remember in five years' time) (Sorry, the elevator blood flood was cool, but it's not gonna be remembered over The Shining's and the other kills were boring).

* Even though Danny's choice about the records is less convoluted than Eric and his reading off of the BOTD, it's still convoluted that he had to climb all the way down through a crack in the freaking parking lot to get into that vault, and that someone set up some kind of Christian-demon-warding-off shrine (also when we take into consideration the whole baby/motherhood subplot and the amount of crucifixes here, is this the most Catholic Evil Dead movie ever?). And take a book covered in CGI-ish scarab beetles.

* Which brings me to this - it's def not the most violent Evil Dead movie or the most violent film either in multiplexes. People's reactions have me flabbergasted. Sure, we get wineglass eating, but the tattoo needle scene doesn't try has hard as the syringe one did in the remake (As much as it pains me to say that). The fire stunt with Bridget was OK. The scissor stab was all right. Nothing sticks out to me like The Marauder going into the woodchipper.

* Also the humor, which is more nudge nudge wink wink and references versus being a slapstickfest some people have said it is.

* The "Ash" vocal cameo on the record is all right, but it's probably going to cause them timeline headaches later unless we're going to pretend Ash Williams was in the Great Depression or the 1920s via time travel and never mentioned it on his show or something like that. That is, if they actually want to act like that's really him on the record.

* The score. It has some good flourishes but is generally meh.

* My minor gore complaint: there was so much vomiting in this one, which is not a DNW for me, and I get that it did happen in the remake and does happen in the OT, but three times is just repetitive, and I feel like it was used as a possession signal in a way that it isn't in other shows and movies. It also felt like Cronin was just pushing it as a shortcut to gross people out. The bug puking from Bridget was probably the most effective one.

* Speaking of traditional - again, more white-eyed Deadites, please. Are we dividing the line between movie-green-eyed Deadites and TV white-eyed-Deadites?

* Mr. Fonda is a human macguffin, but I guess we needed him and the other neighbor guy because Ellie wouldn't own a gun (??).

* The Marauder looked decent but was pretty underlit at first, and some clear "post sweetening" made it less menacing than it should be. The three headedness of it was fun tho. It's very much an Evil Dead character.

* The way the tiny mild amount of humor was looped in was fine. Couple of good one-liners, but nothing that really pops out as memorable. Dialogue continues to be an issue with these post-Raimi-written flicks.

* Though the movie does feel properly Evil Deadish, Cronin can't resist tapdancing in with some The Shining refs. At least I didn't feel, unlike I did with Fede, that he was mentally directing another film.

* There's some interesting psychology here, in which Ellie fears becoming "loose" like their mother and Beth doesn't give a rip, but Cronin doesn't take time enough to dive into it (and he had plenty of time) (See my Cons below).

* The references were background and oblique in turn, and to be frank Cronin should have cut their existence in half. Also TBH the way the 'come get some!' plays out suggests Beth got it off of a pizza box in-universe, which is super stupid.

* The Classic not being in the movie sucks, but I think it's because they couldn't get the car transported to NZ (?) (Quarantine? does anyone know? I know Cronin said it was because he wanted to use his "own references." but I'm not sure).

* laughed when Ellie tried to tear Beth's fetus out of her, though I'm not sure I was supposed to.

* The whole wraparound thing with Jessica and her dumbass boyfriend and her friend Teresa the Bronte fan was still just utterly pointless. Gory, sure. Evil Deadish, sure. Did I have a minor laugh at the Wuthering Heights part (probably one of the better franchise callbacks in the movie)? Sure. But it seems to just exist because they needed a cabin scene there. I don't care about these characters, the movie is not ABOUT them, and I feel like are total wastes of time that could've been spent on Kassie and Beth being cool. It feels like it was there to facilitate a downer ending or make people go WOW THE BEGINNING TIES INTO THE END!!!

* Also HOW THE FUCK DID SHE NOT HEAR ANY OF THAT NOISE INVOLVED IN ELLIE, BRIDGET AND THE MAURADER KILLING EVERYONE?! I get that she lived on the fifth floor, way below Ellie, but people were crawling through vents and chanting Dead By Dawn and there was an elevator crash, for fuck's sake! The building is cheap, it's foundationally unsound after that earthquake and she's just gonna stay there? Also no one called the police and no EMTs bothered to make sure there were any living people left in the building? Two tiny examples of the plot getting away from Cronin.

* Why would you go to the trouble of setting this movie in a high rise when almost everyone in the building has moved out already? In an attempt at replicating spam-in-a-cabin they just did spam-in-a-hallway and I'd've rather it been more expansive. Imagine killing Deadites in a rec room! Sure we got gore and blood but it was definitely underplayed that hundreds of people could've been pressed together into a giant Marauder even bigger than what we get!

* The three books stuff is stupid and is already going to end up being retconned in EVIL DEAD 6: SHEMP TAKES MANHATTAN so they shouldn't have bothered. Also what's vortexy about Mia's journey?

So it's a good one - my reordered Evil Dead Tier of Preference, from most to least:
AOD - ED2 - TED - Rise - AvED Season 3 - AvED Season 1 - The Remake - AvED Season 2 (Which is only saved by Ellen, Ted and some of the performances for me).
 
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Muzzlehatch

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Great review! Thank you. Can you tell more about the content of the vocal cameo? Is it really a known character or could it be a random person?
 
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