Ash vs Evil Dead S01E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

DyD said:
Robo Rider said:
Also a bit of a mistake this episode made. Amanda caused the slash mark on the evil Ash right cheek, Why does the one that was locked in the toolshed have the same slashmark when consoling impaled Amanda on the deerhead? In fact he has the same slash mark while in the toolshed talking to Linda just before he says "You talk too much."

I didn't actually notice that. I guess it's more of their forced "fixing" stuff up just to make both Ashes look exactly the same for next episode's inevitable "who's the original Ash?" scene, just like Amanda cutting off Evil Ash's hand and original Ash hurting his stump in the shed.
I noticed it on my 4rth viewing of the episode. Didn't make sense how she cut evil Ash yet the good one was in the shed so he didn't have any reason to get that mark on his cheek unless the one of the three blades that flew at him actually grazed him in the toolshed.

At the end of the episode we see Ash explaining to Pablo and Kelly that there was an evil him running around. He then goes down the hall and from behind gets coldcocked which didn't make sense that somehow Ash passed him by and that his friends didn't see his doppleganger. The room where they fight has a door that's wide open. They couldn' run in to see what all the fighting was about?
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

Joem1k said:
Did anyone else notice that they picked a very creepy but ironic song for the credits this week ?

and quick oberservation's from the next week promo. 

Ruby and Ash relationship is going to be very interesting to watch. 

Pablo and Kelly look like there gonna be in for a shitstorm of trouble. 

Ash beheading someone, my best guess is evil ash. 

And i might be seeings things but i think i saw a possessed ash choking pablo, gonna have to look that over again since the video they have out right now is not very good in quality.

What was that song?  Does anybody know?
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

MaidOfKandar said:
Joem1k said:
Did anyone else notice that they picked a very creepy but ironic song for the credits this week ?

and quick oberservation's from the next week promo. 

Ruby and Ash relationship is going to be very interesting to watch. 

Pablo and Kelly look like there gonna be in for a shitstorm of trouble. 

Ash beheading someone, my best guess is evil ash. 

And i might be seeings things but i think i saw a possessed ash choking pablo, gonna have to look that over again since the video they have out right now is not very good in quality.

What was that song?  Does anybody know?

Found it 

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKEZu_KMjy4[/video]
 
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Thank you!
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

I just realized something in the kitchen scene when amanda's cut's off  evil ash hand, isn't it kind of ironic that Ash's hand basically get's chopped up by the same meat cleaver that he tried to almost kill ash with in ed 2 ?
 
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I just want to reiterate what I said on the Twitters, and that is now that I have seen Ash return to the cabin along with Amanda, Kelly, and Pablo. I can die happy now, and fuck (sorry) Star Wars. I was blown away by this episode, and it is clear all things were leading up to this one... and they nailed it. The way everything looked to the throw backs to Ash battling it out with himself. I can't wait to see what happens in the episode after Christmas.


/As far as the magically appearing cut on Ash's cheek my guess is there must have been something edited out because it suddenly appears after the third saw blade flies at him, and the bear trap goes crazy.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

Starz has updated there site with stuff from episode 9 

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*Clips*

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https://www.starz.com/originals/ashvsevildead/video/c191ae3cf54148569eb48662e9cf3cc1

and here's the inside the world (they really go into detail about the stuff they put into the cabin)

https://www.starz.com/originals/ashvsevildead/video/78d2c667796942e3af67dbee9cc95db2
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

DyD said:
Robo Rider said:
How did Amanda, Pablo, and Kelly know where to find the cabin? At the end of last week's episode Amanda asks "Where exactly is this cabin Ash?" and how did they get there if Ash took their ride?

Ash didn't take their ride. Pablo and Kelly have the car. I'm guessing the cabin actually wasn't that far away from the survivalist camp and that Ash just walked from the camp to the cabin. It seems the Brujo's place, the survivalist camp and the cabin are all in the same general area. But yeah, I was also questioning this while watching the episode. I guess it's just another poorly explained connective tissue in the plot to file under dismissive, convenient writing.

Robo Rider said:
I was wondering if the militia compound was close to the cabin too. Only reason I could guess they were able to find him without using the car. I was wondering how they were going to get to the cabin in this episode without seeing the bridge that got curled up by the evil force in Evil Dead1 and Evil Dead 2. They could have used the path that Ashe'es friend and the tow truck driver mentioned but the evil force whisked it away years ago at the end of Evil Dead 2. Then again what's continuity amongst writers that can bring the book back into the possession of ash since it got burned up in Evil Dead1.


My guess is they are indeed all close together, and when Ash took off they new he had to have gone into the woods so they followed him... and found the campers who knew where the cabin was. The only question is now if Pablo and Kelly were lost what happened to make Amanda want to split up, and how did she find it so quickly?!? I guess with only 30 minutes it is kind of hard to show that sort of stuff, and you just have to use you imagination and/ or illusion as Guns 'N Roses would say.


Joem1k said:
Starz has updated there site with stuff from episode 9 

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https://starz.imgix.net/Originals/AshVsEvilDead/MostImportantEpisode/109_2560x1440.jpg?w=1024&h=576

*Clips*

http://preview-ng.starz.com/p/originals_marquee/org7854_15_by/ORG7854-15-By_Ep109_720_2375kbps.mp4

https://www.starz.com/originals/ashvsevildead/video/c191ae3cf54148569eb48662e9cf3cc1

and here's the inside the world (they really go into detail about the stuff they put into the cabin)

https://www.starz.com/originals/ashvsevildead/video/78d2c667796942e3af67dbee9cc95db2


The episode 9 preview from Starz is intriguing to say the least.

Especially with Ash holding a head, and Ruby holding the hikers severed head along with the dagger. 0_o 
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

Solid ep. LOVE the cabin recreation. This felt like the first time watching an actual "Evil Dead" TV show since maybe episode 2. So glad to be out of the fukcing daylight and in that claustrophobic setting. The Evil in general seems much more menacing and I hope they keep that up. I was skeptical at a lot of people's theories that the Evil would be more of its old flavor once they got to the cabin, but I'm more optimistic now.

Personally I cheered at Amanda's death. Yeah, that sounds cold. No offense to the actress but I didn't like her character at all. She doesn't fit with an Evil Dead world at all. Her character was wooden, direction-less. To be honest she kind of represented everything I found wrong with a lot of this season. So to see her slaughtered senselessly in the cabin was almost like the old Evil Dead I love coming out and saying "Hi, show. THIS is what we're all about, and we don't care about your beloved character arcs." Hoping Pablo and Kelly get a big wakeup call next. They don't have to die, but I was beyond tired of the consequence-free weakass-deadite "ghost beaters" direction of the show and I'm hoping this new direction continues.
 
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Joem1k said:
Starz has updated there site with stuff from episode 9 

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https://starz.imgix.net/Originals/AshVsEvilDead/Season1/carousel/NextOn/109home_2560x1440.jpg?w=1024&h=576

http://imagedata.starz.com/metadata-service/image/partner/starzcom/contentId/24837/type/STUDIO/dimension/900X506

http://assets.starz.com/imgix/Originals/AshVsEvilDead/Season1/carousel/NextOn/109show_388x218.jpg

https://starz.imgix.net/Originals/AshVsEvilDead/MostImportantEpisode/109_2560x1440.jpg?w=1024&h=576

*Clips*

http://preview-ng.starz.com/p/originals_marquee/org7854_15_by/ORG7854-15-By_Ep109_720_2375kbps.mp4

https://www.starz.com/originals/ashvsevildead/video/c191ae3cf54148569eb48662e9cf3cc1

and here's the inside the world (they really go into detail about the stuff they put into the cabin)

https://www.starz.com/originals/ashvsevildead/video/78d2c667796942e3af67dbee9cc95db2


The episode 9 preview from Starz is intriguing to say the least.

Especially with Ash holding a head, and Ruby holding the hikers severed head along with the dagger. 0_o 
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The preview is very interesting.  I wonder how ash can use the glove and the chainsaw at the same time?  He use to swap them,  now he just put both?  I guess they mod it on the fly.  The book was in contact with blood I guess this is not a good sign.  I can't see who grab pablo by the throat and I'm not sure which character was beheaded by Ash.   We can see ruby use Ash's chainsaw against him.  Could someone figure what is attacking Pablo at the end of the trailer?  Could it be the book? 
 
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Sutter Cane said:





The episode 9 preview from Starz is intriguing to say the least.

Especially with Ash holding a head, and Ruby holding the hikers severed head along with the dagger. 0_o 

The preview is very interesting.  I wonder how ash can use the glove and the chainsaw at the same time?  He use to swap them,  now he just put both?  I guess they mod it on the fly.  The book was in contact with blood I guess this is not a good sign.  I can't see who grab pablo by the throat and I'm not sure which character was beheaded by Ash.   We can see ruby use Ash's chainsaw against him.  Could someone figure what is attacking Pablo at the end of the trailer?  Could it be the book? 



It looks to me like the person grabbing Pablo by the throat either has some type of dark bracelet/arm band, or long sleeve shirt on... and the only two people who match that description is the hiker guy who is beheaded and Kelly. It could be someone, or something new popping up though. You can see their head, and I don't see the light that the hiker had on his head. The last shot seems to be of the book dragging (presumably) Kelly toward Pablo, and we get to see the view through the books eye and nose. 
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

I've not come down from this episode at all ~ That Cabin ~ MY GOD!!!! What a work of Art!!! :heart:
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

It's really got the best Evil Dead feel to it over all the previous episodes.

1. Amanda, which is as close to a girlfriend as Ash as we get, dies. You would think after Linda #1 and Linda #2 he would learn to drag them kicking and screaming away from the cabin if he loved her.

2. Demonic severed head on a vice talking dripping with blood torturing Ash like the first 2 films.

3. Buzz saws flying at Ash'es head like many items in the first 3 films.

4. An evil version of Ash like the second film trying to kill him.

5. The Hand crawling through the walls again.

6. Lets not forget that mouse that was on the stairs of the cellar from Evil Dead 2. I think it must be his grandson.

7. Loved how they got so many details spot on like the swing knocking against the wall just before Ash gets to the door.


I think whoever said that the book's mouth is what we see through in the end of next weeks clip is right because that would mean Pablos necklace would be pointing towards it like the book is aiming right for it again.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

Robo Rider
It's really got the best Evil Dead feel to it over all the previous episodes.

1. Amanda, which is as close to a girlfriend as Ash as we get, dies. You would think after Linda #1 and Linda #2 he would learn to drag them kicking and screaming away from the cabin if he loved her.


I think whoever said that the book's mouth is what we see through in the end of next weeks clip is right because that would mean Pablos necklace would be pointing towards it like the book is aiming right for it again.


Ash tried to ditch them in fear that it would happen again, and they found out where he went on their own accord.


Cyborganna said:
I've not come down from this episode at all ~ That Cabin ~ MY GOD!!!! What a work of Art!!! :heart:


Welcome to Deadites. I agree with you that the whole crew did an amazing job on Ashes to Ashes, and next week is only going to get more crazy.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

Cyborganna said:
I've not come down from this episode at all ~ That Cabin ~ MY GOD!!!! What a work of Art!!! :heart:


Welcome to Deadites. I agree with you that the whole crew did an amazing job on Ashes to Ashes, and next week is only going to get more crazy.


Robo Rider said:
It's really got the best Evil Dead feel to it over all the previous episodes.

1. Amanda, which is as close to a girlfriend as Ash as we get, dies. You would think after Linda #1 and Linda #2 he would learn to drag them kicking and screaming away from the cabin if he loved her.

I think whoever said that the book's mouth is what we see through in the end of next weeks clip is right because that would mean Pablos necklace would be pointing towards it like the book is aiming right for it again.


Ash tried to ditch them out of fear that this sort of thing might happen again, and they found out where he went... and they showed up on their own accord. 
If you watch the preview Pablo's necklace is indeed pointing in the books direction. 
 
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I paused the trailer for next weeks episode and noticed the necklace pointing straight for the camera view which could be the mouth of the book. I actually feel bad for Ash. He could have been happy with her. Granted us fans would be disappointed. Wonder if she comes back as a deadite in the middle of the room impaled by the deer horn.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

What happens to Amanda is without a doubt one of the most interesting things as we closed out episode 8, and head into episode 9 (try to use the spoiler tags for any comments on the next episode...) and it is clear Ash and company will have to deal with her along with Bad Ash. 

My guess is that in the preview when we see what is believed to be Ash's shadow holding a severed head there is a good chance he ends up having to deal with Amanda at some point, and that could be what we are seeing. I also wonder if the thing grabbing Pablo is actually Deadite Amanda now. 


Robo Rider said:
I paused the trailer for next weeks episode and noticed the necklace pointing straight for the camera view which could be the mouth of the book. I actually feel bad for Ash. He could have been happy with her. Granted us fans would be disappointed. Wonder if she comes back as a deadite in the middle of the room impaled by the deer horn.


What happens to Amanda is without a doubt one of the most interesting things as we closed out episode 8, and head into episode 9 (try to use the spoiler tags for any comments on the next episode...) and it is clear Ash and company will have to deal with her along with Bad Ash. 


My guess is that in the preview when we see what is believed to be Ash's shadow holding a severed head there is a good chance he ends up having to deal with Amanda at some point, and that could be what we are seeing. I also wonder if the thing grabbing Pablo is actually Deadite Amanda now. 
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

Robo Rider said:
I paused the trailer for next weeks episode and noticed the necklace pointing straight for the camera view which could be the mouth of the book. I actually feel bad for Ash. He could have been happy with her. Granted us fans would be disappointed. Wonder if she comes back as a deadite in the middle of the room impaled by the deer horn.

What happens to Amanda is without a doubt one of the most interesting things as we closed out episode 8, and head into episode 9 (try to use the spoiler tags for any comments on the next episode...) and it is clear Ash and company will have to deal with her along with Bad Ash. 

My guess is that in the preview when we see what is believed to be Ash's shadow holding a severed head there is a good chance he ends up having to deal with Amanda at some point, and that could be what we are seeing. I also wonder if the thing grabbing Pablo is actually Deadite Amanda now.
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

In-Depth review 

This review is going to be fairly short and  as the observation's will be taking up most of my time for this one, let's get right into it. 


Pro's 

-The amount of effort and time that was put into the cabin and it's surrounding area was quite awe inspiring to see, every little detail or object is there to, it would take awhile to go through these last three episode's frame by frame to spot all the subtle references or object's from the past are still there, the prop and set designer's really deserve all the praise there getting for this.

- The director and writer should really pat themselves on the back for going all out for this episode, i still can't believe they managed to pull this off, if i hadn't know it was tony directing this i would have mistaken it for a sam raimi episode.  

- The tone and overall feel for this episode was really refreshing to see and basically makes the other episodes pale in comparison, i really hope we get more episodes like this because it just felt right for this show.

-Evil Ash, this character is just menacing disturbing and cunning, probably the most dangerous entity or demon to come out of this show, when he first appeared i was immediately sent into paranoia and fear when he first appeared on my first viewing, then his fight scene with Amanda was just terrifying to watch play out. Just the way he continues to berate her and watch her die slowly really sold me on this main villain, this version of evil ash really makes AoD evil ash look like a joke in comparison. 

-Bruce Campbell and Jill Marie Jones performances in this episode were really well done and made up big time from the last episode. 

-Linda and Ash scenes overall, plus i really loved the actress they got to play linda, she looks and talks almost exactly like the actress who played linda from ed2. 

-Seeing ash breaking down both mentally and emotionally in this episode was quite heartbreaking to see. (i will explore this topic more in my observation's and theory's section down below) 

-Ash vs Ash, what a great way to cap off the episode and leave us hanging for more. 

Middle's 

- I really wish i could have been fully into amanda's character and her relationship with ash in this episode but they had to piss it away during the early episodes, the scene was done well and was well acted by both partys, but when i'm not fully invested in the character or her relationship with the main character it just won't have the same effect, no matter how well acted the scene is.

-The Redshirt's have arrived at the cabin, beam me up scotty. - Captain Kirk *insane laughter*   

*No cons for this week's episode* 

Observation's and Theory's 

"A broken man" 
(This is basically my thought's of ash's character in this series so far and how's his progressed as a character leading up to this episode.)

Ash is a very broken man both mentally and emotionally, over the past 30 years he never grew out of his shell or matured as a person simply because of what transpired that night at the cabin and him not wanting to get over Linda in general, in the first episode he really comes off as desperate man in a mid life crisis and really reached the bottom of the barrel in term's of being that guy we once knew him as in the movies, but as this series has progressed his grown some what back into that man we used to know from the films  and has started to let the people his most comfortable with into his life (Pablo,Kelly and Amanda), but by ep 7 he manned up to what he has to do  to stop the evil and doesn't want the people around him to be killed, so he gives them a subtle heartfelt goodbye and heads off towards the cabin to face his own personal demons and end the evil by himself.  

What he didn't anticipate when he arrived at the cabin was amanda finding him, he is very adamant about her leaving him alone with the cabin in this scene but he makes the mistake of letting his blinding love her overtake his sensible side and let's her help him, when he starts to talk about linda again his very awkward about it and is trying to get through the subject fairly quickly by recapping the event's in a way he can only articulate, through a wall of sleazy jokes and overall just being a smartass. On his way to the workshed his repressed memory's of linda start flooding back in and you can tell his trying his best to keep it together, he enter's the workshed wanting to get out of there fairly quickly but the cabin has other plan's and shut's him in with his own personal nightmare Linda. 

bad memory ? that's what this cabin does...she's a cruel cruel bitch - Ash

In these scenes we see ash  just get ripped apart and tortured emotional by linda, but we also finally got to see him finally move on and put the nightmare that's been haunting him for year's to bed, but linda and the cabin will ultimately be getting the last laugh in the end. 

Your gonna be alone forever, we'll  make sure of that ! - Linda

When returning to the cabin he find's amanda slowly dieing, and he just completely breaks down in this scene and basically meet's his breaking point in this series and when evil ash comes back and basically rubs salt in the wound, the look on ash's face says it all, his out for blood and after his quick conversation with a very shocked and confused pablo and kelly, we see that epic showdown between the two. 

welp, better to have loved and lost, and boy did you lose HAHAHA - Evil Ash 

I can't wait to see how ash will be acting moving forward through these final episodes and into the second season.
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i'll post some more theory's  and thing's i noticed later on in the week to add onto this post since this breakdown of ash's character pretty much took me till last night to really put this whole thing together, so yeah that's my thought's on this episode will be back for more on references and theory's later in the week  :D .
 
RE: Ash vs Evil Dead S01 E08: Ashes to Ashes Discussion [SPOILERS]

Apparently the finale is going to be 40 min's long, can anyone with a cable, direct tv or dish subscription confirm this ?

EDIT

 dana pretty much confirm's our suspicions about what that little scene with kelly was really all about. 

"[font=Arial, sans-serif]Yes. Kelly was jelly. But to be fair, the Cabin isn't what you'd call a romantic getaway.  [/font]

https://twitter.com/ImDanaDeLorenzo/status/678667595667677190
 
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