Honestly, you wouldn't see that kinda shit with craig's run, plus stranger things has copied and burrowed a shit ton of stuff from various properties. And so has evil dead (necronomicon, three stooges gags, ETC ETC) so i don't really see how this is a bad thing, honestly. Let's wait and see the execution before we call crow on it just yet.
Yeah, well sorry to get harsh here and bring it back down to reality but bruce is 59 and is probably retiring the ash character after this season and sam's busy hollywood life is getting busier as the year's go by as he has multiple film projects already lined up. Let's face the music, it is probably very impossible/EXTREMELY unlikely for a movie to happen at this point now. In the creator's eyes, s3 was probably their last rodeo with this franchise, i don't think bruce,sam or rob we'll be looking to come back to this franchise in about 6 years or so to produce a film that has a extremely likely chance of flopping at the box office or let alone try and talk with a investor to make it happen when this show flopped/under performed. they would all three be laughed right out of the building. they also just spent 3 years busting their ass making 15 hours worth of evil dead related content, would they really wanna come back to do a film after all that work? I don't think so.
We've reached the end of the road with ash's story, sad but true.
I expect you're right but I don't think Bruce's age is a barrier in preventing another movie in theory, consider just how good Clint Eastwood was in The Unforgiven & Gran Torino as an an old tough man. I highly doubt we'll be that lucky now to get Ash portrayed in that way but, in the right hands and with the right script, a 4th Evil Dead film could be brilliant IMO .. I agree with your other reasoning though on this matter though as well as a previous poster who's pointed out that Ash seems to have been turned into a Homer Simpson character now.
I'm still enjoying what I've seen so far though ..
I expect you're right but I don't think Bruce's age is a barrier in preventing another movie in theory, consider just how good Clint Eastwood was in The Unforgiven & Gran Torino as an an old tough man. I highly doubt we'll be that lucky now to get Ash portrayed in that way but, in the right hands and with the right script, a 4th Evil Dead film could be brilliant IMO .. I agree with your other reasoning though on this matter though as well as a previous poster who's pointed out that Ash seems to have been turned into a Homer Simpson character now.
I'm still enjoying what I've seen so far though ..
Yeah it would be good but however, what bruce has said during his book tour about what he want's to do after this show is over with says otherwise. He seems to be putting the breaks on as being a main stay actor and focusing more on smaller projects/smaller roles.
I don't know if i fully agree with this homer simpson comparison that's being tossed around right now, it's simply seems like a over exaggeration. Yeah he has had some not very bright moments so far in s3, but i wouldn't put it on the level with current homer simpson's levels of dumbassery, if he was a homer simpson of today, he would be a drooling mess of a character at this point when in fact it's been quite the opposite, his had nuance and layers with his daughter plot so far that you wouldn't get with a current version of homer simpson. the mistakes his made is because of his inexperience as a dad or it's usually because of his habits getting the better of him.
I see more of a caring/badass ash this season then i did in the previous two, and what i don't certainly see is a current drooling homer simpson.
After seeing a small dialogue exchange between ash and kelly from the finale in that one on-set dana interview i posted a few pages back, this is most certainly not a drooling homer simpson. This is the heroic selfless ash williams we know and love.
Honestly, you wouldn't see that kinda shit with craig's run, plus stranger things has copied and burrowed a shit ton of stuff from various properties. And so has evil dead (necronomicon, three stooges gags, ETC ETC) so i don't really see how this is a bad thing, honestly. Let's wait and see the execution before we call crow on it just yet.
Yeah, well sorry to get harsh here and bring it back down to reality but bruce is 59 and is probably retiring the ash character after this season and sam's busy hollywood life is getting busier as the year's go by as he has multiple film projects already lined up. Let's face the music, it is probably very impossible/EXTREMELY unlikely for a movie to happen at this point now. In the creator's eyes, s3 was probably their last rodeo with this franchise, i don't think bruce,sam or rob we'll be looking to come back to this franchise in about 6 years or so to produce a film that has a extremely likely chance of flopping at the box office or let alone try and talk with a investor to make it happen when this show flopped/under performed. they would all three be laughed right out of the building. they also just spent 3 years busting their ass making 15 hours worth of evil dead related content, would they really wanna come back to do a film after all that work? I don't think so.
We've reached the end of the road with ash's story, sad but true.
Well, Bruce told in a interview that if the show end at S3 they're looking to do another movie. I agree, doing another movie for theaters is a commercial suicide. They need to produce it for a TV channel or a streaming service as Netflix. Now TV series can be on par with an Hollywood production.
Yeah Bruce is older but the Evil Dead world is now a part of pop culture. With a good a idea they could expand the universe and mythology with or without Bruce. (Sorry die hard fans)
Like it or not the 2013 Remake is a proof there's still something to do with the franchise. With a budget of 17 millions they made over 54 millions (ref : Box office mojo). This is not bad at all.
P.S : I was pointing Strangers Thing because it' s one of the most popular show right now. I know the contents of ST borrow tons of ideas from other properties. (mostly old school horror movies from the 80'. nothing actual). But they didn't borrow things from the Walking Dead because it's a popular competitor. They didn't borrow things from the simpsons because it was one of the most watched show for decades.. I'm maybe wrong, but sometime I feel they wrote AVED series based on a market analysis. The result is a big mess with a little bit of everything. This is just my opinion. We can still wait and see, but they use this formula since day 1.
P.P.S : @Joem1k I really like the reaction shot of both Brandy / Young ash of your avatar. The comparison is mind blowing. I'd never notice that before.
I personally don't see why the possibility of another Evil Dead movie seems so grim to some people.
The way i see it Bruce ,Sam and Rob can easily pitch an Evil Dead movie as a theatrical release by just getting Fede Alvarez involved in the project again. The dude is 2 for 2 as far as financial success goes in the horror genre. (Evil Dead made for 17M and made close to 100M World wide - Don't Breathe made for less than 10M and it made close to 160M World wide.) We might have to wait and see what he does with "The girl with the dragon tattoo" project but im pretty certain that there are many people in Hollywood who would support any project he is involved in curently.
I personally don't see why the possibility of another Evil Dead movie seems so grim to some people.
The way i see it Bruce ,Sam and Rob can easily pitch an Evil Dead movie as a theatrical release by just getting Fede Alvarez involved in the project again. The dude is 2 for 2 as far as financial success goes in the horror genre. (Evil Dead made for 17M and made close to 100M World wide - Don't Breathe made for less than 10M and it made close to 160M World wide.) We might have to wait and see what he does with "The girl with the dragon tattoo" project but im pretty certain that there are many people in Hollywood who would support any project he is involved in curently.
The big thing about Fede is he is currently tied to the new Labyrinth movie while also directing a movie called The Girl in the Spider's Web this year so if he does anything else Evil Dead related it will be years from now. The guy is busy with other projects, and if there is ever going to be a new Evil Dead movie it will likely need a new director... and to be honest I think I'd rather just see Sam back at the helm.
The guy is busy with other projects, and if there is ever going to be a new Evil Dead movie it will likely need a new director... and to be honest I think I'd rather just see Sam back at the helm.
Yes, THIS. As a matter of fact, I'd be far more interested in a new Evil Dead movie written and directed by Sam Raimi that does not star Bruce as Ash, than one that has Bruce as Ash but no Sam behind the camera.
And please, keep Fede Alvarez far away from any future Evil Dead projects. That's all I'm gonna say on this matter.
Yes, THIS. As a matter of fact, I'd be far more interested in a new Evil Dead movie written and directed by Sam Raimi that does not star Bruce as Ash, than one that has Bruce as Ash but no Sam behind the camera.
And please, keep Fede Alvarez far away from any future Evil Dead projects. That's all I'm gonna say on this matter.
I know everyone will disagree with this idea wholeheartedly but, i would love to see what sam could accomplish with a whole movie of evil dead with the new characters introduced in the show (Brandy,Pablo and Kelly) and see where he could take it with that concept,sam did hand pick dana and ray for the first season for a reason. But knowing how that idea would go, i don't know if it would do well in movie theater but maybe on a streaming service i could see it working in that regard, but knowing how the majority of the fans would react it would be a instant "hell no, where's ash ?!" from everyone.
Honestly, i just don't see a winning move here for another film working out.
Yes, THIS. As a matter of fact, I'd be far more interested in a new Evil Dead movie written and directed by Sam Raimi that does not star Bruce as Ash, than one that has Bruce as Ash but no Sam behind the camera.
And please, keep Fede Alvarez far away from any future Evil Dead projects. That's all I'm gonna say on this matter.
This is all about personal taste but I must admit that I enjoyed the remake. I understand this is a love / hate situation in this case. I'm not going to debate on this.
Choosing another director than Sam Raimi is a delicate Situation. If the case, they must be extremely picky. I wont bet on this scenario.
I know everyone will disagree with this idea wholeheartedly but, i would love to see what sam could accomplish with a movie of evil dead with the new characters introduced in the show (Brandy,Pablo and Kelly) and see where he could take it with that concept,sam did hand pick dana and ray for the first season. But knowing how that would go, i don't know if it would do well in movie theater but maybe on a streaming service i could see it working and but knowing how the majority of the fans would react it would be a instant "hell no, where's ash ?!" from everyone.
Honestly, i just don't see a winning move here for another film working out.
@Joem1k : As many projects. on paper, this is a double edged sword. The success depend mostly about HOW the movie is done.
I don't see the point to bring back side characters from the series if it failed to achieve something good. Kelly and Pablo are far to be memorable characters. They look like cartoons and they are not well developed . Not interested to continue the adventure with theses characters.
If Raimi direct a new Evil Dead movie wihtout Ash. I want to see a brand new cast.
It's a bit early to speak about Brandy, but she need to deliver a remarkable performance this season to make me change my mind.
I know the majority of fans i've seen love pablo,kelly and so far brandy, if anyone can make them work it's sam, plus he wouldn't have to do much as they are already established and he can flesh them out even further from where they leave off with s3.
That would just be a waste of three years of work just to abandon established characters and drop them for a brand new cast that the fans would probably not like right from the get go when they've just now gotten used to and invested into these three characters. (EX : the remake , excluding Mia)
So really in hindsight here, what would be the better option. Gamble on a new cast and risk backlash OR use the characters from the series that the fans are already invested in.
From what i've read, it seems like their will be a passing of the torch moment this season, it seems like they might be heading in that direction.
I know the majority of fans i've seen love pablo,kelly and so far brandy, if anyone can make them work it's sam, plus he wouldn't have to do much as they are already established and he can flesh them out even further from where they leave off with s3.
That would just be a waste of three years of work just to abandon established characters and drop them for a brand new cast that the fans would probably not like right from the get go. (EX : the remake , excluding Mia)
From what i've read, it seems like their will be a passing of the torch moment this season, it seems like they might be heading in that direction.
That would be also a waste of time to work a stand alone movie with dysfunctional established characters. IMO they're already wasting their time with Pablo and Kelly since 2015. Also, peoples who watch movies not necessarily watch a TV series. So it better to be a stand alone movie. This is only my opinion, you can disagree.
Also I don't want to see a movie from Sam Raimi trying to fix expendable characters.
See, there is no winning in this scenario here for another movie, Damned if you do or Damned if you don't. Us evil dead fan's are always going to be picky about just what the hell we want going forward, seems like at this point we've touched upon almost all the flavors this franchise can offer or dish out that the fan base itself has now become so divided on just what the hell they want next, it's just a hair pulling experience at this point.
I'd rather they just leave it as is, and let the franchise rest at this point when s3 is done and over with.
See, their is no winning in this scenario here for another movie, Damned if you do or Damned if you don't. Us evil dead fan's are always going to be picky about just what the hell we want going forward, seems like at this point we've touched upon almost all the flavors this franchise can offer or dish out that the fanbase itself has now become so divided on just what the hell they want next, it's now just a hair pulling experience at this point.
I'd rather they just leave it as is, and let the franchise rest at this point.
I don't think they touched everything the franchise can offer. I agree you can't please every fans of the franchise because Evil Dead start as an horror movie, turn into horror/comedy then an Epic fantasy / comedy movies. Some peoples hate AoD & some will praise this movie. Same thing with the 2 previous chapters. I know with AVED they try to please both....and try maybe too much to reach more audiences.
Most problem with the franchise right now is due to the execution of the series. This is dividing fans base even more.
As I said before, the only thing that could help the franchise is a good and strong writers team. Movie or series.
Honestly, I think the main reason why a movie won't fly is because AvED hasn't returned profits necessary to make it worthwhile to Lionsgate. Maybe a direct to streaming thing might work, maybe if they crowdfund it, like I've said before. But season 2's DVD sales crashed pretty quickly, so who knows.
@Joem1k, I'm not 100 percent sure it was the marketing when it comes to spreading word about the show; they've always sent the actors out to talk shows, had radio and television ads, etc. The viral marketing we have being gross and immature to the point of turning off a lot of their audience is a different subject.
The weird thing about season 2 being the point where things started to flip in a negative direction is that I didn't even find head up the butt gate to be the worst thing in the show. IMO season 2 as a whole improved over season one.
(Also Joe I'm friends with the person who made your av! Small world!)
The big thing about Fede is he is currently tied to the new Labyrinth movie while also directing a movie called The Girl in the Spider's Web this year so if he does anything else Evil Dead related it will be years from now.
Fede has been shooting "The Girl in the Spiders Web" for a while now so i would assume that that project is just about done. I also don't see the Labyrinth remake/reboot ever happening personaly from what i've read about production issues. Also, if there was to be another Evil Dead film it would be at the very least 2 years from now. (assuming AvED doesn't get renewed for season 4).
As someone who loved Fede's Evil Dead movie i highly disagree , but to each their own. For me , The 2013 Evil Dead was much much much better experience than what Ash vs Evil Dead has been. I would be first in line to watch another film in the Evil Dead universe by him (so would plenty of people)
Also, i really wouldn't be interested in a movie involving anybody from Ash vs Evil Dead if Ash isn't involved. And it really would be a failed venture since you would be asking for people who probably never watched Ash vs Evil Dead to get tickets to watch pre existing characters (assuming you go for a theatre release) and you would be asking Ash/Bruce Campbell fans to watch an Evil Dead movie without Ash in it. (Something that Fede made work but because that was a completely different story and characters he personaly created)
Also, i really wouldn't be interested in a movie involving anybody from Ash vs Evil Dead if Ash isn't involved. And it really would be a failed venture since you would be asking for people who probably never watched Ash vs Evil Dead to get tickets to watch pre existing characters (assuming you go for a theatre release) and you would be asking Ash/Bruce Campbell fans to watch an Evil Dead movie without Ash in it. (Something that Fede made work but because that was a completely different story and characters he personaly created)
